Sunday, February 3, 2008

Descartes discourse on methods part 4/ 1-3

So in the fourth section in paragraphs 1-3 I believe decartes was really trying to talk about the opposite to be objective. I think he as trying to say that everyone makes mistakes so you cant beleive everything people say. He used geometry as an example and said there are alot of room for errors so basically be careful.

The next point I think he moved to was sometimes what you think isnt always true. He used a dream to explain. He goes on to say that I dream can sometimes give you an accurate account of what is going to happen next but more often its just imaginary, what your mind creates, and in that case it would not be true.

Then the "I think therefore I am" comes into play. He said he considers this the 1st principle of sociology because it is "unshakeable", or in other words no one really has been able to dispprove it yet.

6 comments:

Jimmy VanValen said...

I think you made some real interesting points here. i deffinatly agree with what your saying but with the dream i think it may go a little deeper. one big point i think he was making with the comment on the dream is that if dreams can be as realistic as real life and the same thoughts enter you mind while asleep as while awake, then all of these thoughts can be no more true then the next. in other words the fact that false things can enter your mind while you sleep means that the thoughts you have while awake can be just as false. i think that in this example he is saying you have to doubt yourself as much as anyone else and don't take any piece of knowledge or any thought for granted.

jimmy

Rachel said...

You know I didn't even see that but good point! It totally makes sense on what your saying.

Erin said...

I think that when we sleep thoughts enter our mind. I think that these thoughts can be our hopes and fears and we dream them according to how we feel about ourselfs. In the section that I read he went on to say that sometimes we believe things in our dreams to be ture and they are not. We need to recognize when something is trueor flase.

Rachel said...

See but I really don't know how he could come up with a way to validate our thoughts or dreams. I mean unless I missed something how could you ever validate something like that?

Chris Rehonic said...

Good Post, I agree with everything you wrote. On the dream part, I think that the dreams we have are not always realitys. There called dreams because we want them to happen and sometimes people have deja vu because they must have dreamed either where they were or what they were doing before. The topic of dreams is very interesting and i also agree that he can't validate what we think or what we dream of.

stephanie said...

I agree when you said that dreams can give you an accurate account of what's going to happen next but that does not mean it is true. He said that dreams can be as true or false as anything else.